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Old May 27, 2010, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #321
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I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?

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Old May 27, 2010, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #322
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It's funny to see the sheeple who can't think for themselves and question authority rush out.

And honestly, is a definitive yes or no that freaking hard to give, really, it's been how many years that this question has been posed?
It's funny to see people attention whoring so much.

Your answer is in the rules of this game that has been there for years.
You lost your case on your first post pls get over it.
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:57 AM // 00:57   #323
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HAHA

little short story, i reported some noob for selling a runescape account and spamming gold site in LA a week ago. i get a whisper from him saying i should try botting. knowingly enough hed get banned anyway, i went to the area signed up for elite membership and told Anet in an email what i was doing. sent the link to the bot to anet and that websites log in and pass for me(my log in to the elite area) just in case they'd want to do surveillance, then told the website what i did in BIG CAPS LETTERS. 2 hours later i get a message form the site saying your blanketyblankblank.com elite membership has been permanently banned for unsupportable conduct for future members(good i hope so) checked my email next day getting a thank you note from anet support team for helping making guild wars a better game play experience.

guessing they extracted the files from the bot or something and used it against peeps who used that type of bot xD that and new members of anet .
this goes to show the sacrifice id go through for all of you guys personally. that elite membership wasn't free

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Old May 27, 2010, 12:57 AM // 00:57   #324
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I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?

You should already have noticed that this question is pointless on this forum and should send a e-mail to support and wait till you get a answer
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:59 AM // 00:59   #325
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There is one texture address out of over a few hundred thousand that relates to the map's fog. It was discovered and usable for users of TM boo hoo big deal, but the drunkard bot... j just give it up already. Were comparing a tool that plays with any textures you want for fun sake and one that automates game play. There is no contest.
Are you saying that Texmod doesn't give a huge advantage to those attempting to do the cartographer title?
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:59 AM // 00:59   #326
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The Drunkard bot is like Marijuana. Many people don't care you use it, but you can still get arrested for it.
well said...
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Old May 27, 2010, 12:59 AM // 00:59   #327
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You should already have noticed that this question is pointless on this forum and should send a e-mail to support and wait till you get a answer

pwned...
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:00 AM // 01:00   #328
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I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?

They already said if you feel to have been wrongly banned, contact support and sort it out. When they said they wiped accounts forever, it's probably a bit dramatic since banning an account places a 1 in place of a 0 in the "banned" category in the database, but deleting an account causes holes in the database to be refilled by other new acct info and so on causing massive fragmentation which is dangerous to the db so yes contact them and if you really are innocent they can probably restore you access. If the account was gone, it wouldn't even give you the 045 error in the first place, just an incorrect details error.

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Are you saying that Texmod doesn't give a huge advantage to those attempting to do the cartographer title?
Yes. Btw, it's your option to obtain a title. Many people have done carto without the mod because it's EASY to do so even without it. Your argument against TexMod is that it is a cheat tool when it infact is not and been used in other games over the years. But the drunkard bot is a cheat tool. End of story bro, end of story.

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Old May 27, 2010, 01:00 AM // 01:00   #329
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There is one texture address out of over a few hundred thousand that relates to the map's fog. It was discovered and usable for users of TM boo hoo big deal, but the drunkard bot... j just give it up already. Were comparing a tool that plays with any textures you want for fun sake and one that automates game play. There is no contest.
Drunkard automatically takes time for you.

Texmod cuts out great amounts of time required to get the title and automatically points out the spots you need.

Both are automation.

Drunkard bot changes the demand on alcohol.

Texmod changes the demand on map checking and mapping assisting services.

lololololololololol.

Both can essentially be deemed as harmful yet to defend one and snub the other because you used one, yet another person who cannot argue sans bias.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:00 AM // 01:00   #330
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soooo since most nerfs and buffs were prob made because of farming bots and what not does that mean anet will go back on some of the more hardcore runs?
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:00 AM // 01:00   #331
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I'm sure that many deserved their ban , but some were unfairly banned . So whoever wants to prove A-net their account has never had bot on it is free to e-mail them . I also have a question : I have NEVER used bots in GW , but does that message mean my acc is finished and I can't get it back , EVER ?
If that statement is true, contact Support. They make mistakes. I've known people that have wrongfully been swept up in past bans, and they got their accounts back.

But that's all you can do. We can't do a thing for you here.

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soooo since most nerfs and buffs were prob made because of farming bots and what not does that mean anet will go back on some of the more hardcore runs?
Absolutely, categorically untrue. People weren't bot farming 8 player runs en masse AFAIK. Recent PvE nerfs have been targeted at toning down speed clears, which are a whole different animal than easily bottable farms.

Not saying that it was impossible to bot farm with 8 accounts. Just saying that it wasn't widespread and the nerfs weren't aimed at solving that problem.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #332
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Just wondering but what is "The Holy Avenger" listed in the article?
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #333
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in the Eula wouldnt Ventrillo or Teamspeak be deemed illegal since it provides an advantage?
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #334
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You should already have noticed that this question is pointless on this forum and should send a e-mail to support and wait till you get a answer
I hope we get to discuss this with the support team , because , believe me it's not nice to see words like "terminated" or "permanent" in a warning screen when you haven't done anything .
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:02 AM // 01:02   #335
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Are you saying that Texmod doesn't give a huge advantage to those attempting to do the cartographer title?
he's saying that texmod's intended purpose is not for the cartography title, whereas a drunkard bots intended purpose is for botting the drunkard title.

edit: or not.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:03 AM // 01:03   #336
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Everyone here who even has to ask about cheating is a likely cheater. Sad. It's people like yourselves who are ruining PC gaming for the casual folk.
I never used a mouseclicker to get drunkard on my main character or any other, and I mapped all three continents on my main without using texmod. I had to scrape the continent of Tyria more than 4 times. Whoop dee doo. Not going to do that again. The second time mapping, on my paragon, I used texmod. I have no interest in doing drunkard ever again, automated clicker or not. HOWEVER, I still want to know their official stance on these things. Wanting to be informed of policy changes and/or exceptions to that policy doesn't mean you're "likely" to be cheating at all...we just want someone OFFICIAL to set the record straight.

We can all sit here and argue back and forth til the servers go offline, but neither my nor your opinion is the one that matters in this situation...it's the person with their finger hovering over the "To Ban" or "Not To Ban" buttons whose really matters right now.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:04 AM // 01:04   #337
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I hope we get to discuss this with the support team , because , believe me it's not nice to see words like "terminated" or "permanent" in a warning screen when you haven't done anything .
You should be ok, when I was falsely banned, I recieved the same warning, but everything was reinstated and I hadn't lost anything. It's when you are repeatedly told you have the wrong log-in info that you need to worry. Just contact support, everything should be fine, provided you are innocent.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:04 AM // 01:04   #338
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I hope we get to discuss this with the support team , because , believe me it's not nice to see words like "terminated" or "permanent" in a warning screen when you haven't done anything .
I didn't do anything, either, but I'm still playing. Maybe you need to look deeper. Mistakes like that don't happen. There is SOMETHING that triggered it. It's not like they had a big list of names to banned and accidentally clicked yours.

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Old May 27, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05   #339
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Okay, but agreed or disagree that a ruler/judge that actually takes the nature of offense into consideration is better?
Of course, but in the MMORPG gameworld, bots are just never going to be allowed. They just cause too many headaches for game developers for them to try to say which bots are ok and which are not. Also they tend to introduce viruses/keyloggers to people's computers which leads to more problems.

Things like Texmod don't play the game for people. You still have to go clear the area with your character for the cartographer title.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05   #340
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Drunkard automatically takes time for you.

Texmod cuts out great amounts of time required to get the title and automatically points out the spots you need.

Both are automation.

Drunkard bot changes the demand on alcohol.

Texmod changes the demand on map checking and mapping assisting services.

lololololololololol.

Both can essentially be deemed as harmful yet to defend one and snub the other because you used one, yet another person who cannot argue sans bias.
TexMod or not, you still have to go face the bordem of manually scraping every edge of every map youve come to love and or hate, so really...
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